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So does she really hate Veronica? What are her thoughts on the “Real World/Road Rules Challenges”? Is Tonya liked by anybody? And what faces does she like to make during sex? All these topics are covered plus a whole lot more, as I sat down with Katie Doyle from the “Real World/Road Rules Challenges”. You know Katie from the “Gauntlet”, the “Inferno”, “Battle of the Sexes 2”, she just got finished filming the “Gauntlet 2”, and will have a brief cameo in the current "Kill Reality" show. I met Katie and her friend, Shay, over lunch in Beverly Hills. To say that she has a lot to say would be an understatement. Silly me, I only recorded an hour of conversation that lasted close to four hours. But here’s what I have for you. All of it. Pretty much word for word of what transpired. Hope you enjoy….
Q: First off, who do you regularly keep in touch with from the "Real World" and "Road Rules"?
A: Ummm...both Adams. Adam from RW and Adam from my season. Blair, Trishelle, Robin, Angela, Ruthie, Derrick, David, Steven. I see a lot them all the time. They're fun. They make me laugh...
Q: So Veronica's not on that list?
A: No. But, ummm, we don't hate each other as much as people think. She has a clothing brand that she started and she offered to give me a shirt. (At this point, the incompotent waitress just delivered my 4th diet coke, so Katie got sidetracked). I mean, our big fight was actually two years ago, I mean, we don't like each other, but, I try to look at the show as a sport, you know "leave it on the field", but....
Q: ...She did say on "Inferno" that you were clinically insane...
A: Yeah. I am (laughs). When I'm mad, my temper is out of control. My mom said to me, "Take your money that you won and take anger management classes."
Q: Your mom wants you to take anger management classes?
A: ...after that show she thought I should.
Q: Do your parents enjoy watching the shows?
A: Yeah, they're glad that I don't hook up or anything like that...
Q: On camera.....
A: Yeah, well, uh, no...well....she doesn't like to see me drunk. There's nothing to do in those houses. Nothing. It's just and endless supply of alcohol and each other. That's all you have. No T.V. Nothing.
Q: No contact with the outside world?
A: There were two phones for 32 people.
Q: So who were you allowed to call?
A: Well, I'd call my mom, but, most people were like, "We don't need the phone, all our friends are here."
Q: So you just finished taping "Gauntlet 2" in July?
A: Yeah.
Q: And there's nothing you can tell me about that?
A: Ummmmm...(ten second pause)...
Q: If you can't, don't worry about it....
A: There are more party animals on this challenge, than any show I've ever been on. And it was the most fun to do. But, it was just insane partying. You got Landon, Brad, Robin, me, Derrick, David, ummm, Ruthie, everybody that likes to party their asses off. Well, they're all on one show together, so you can imagine what happens.
Q: What are your impressions of Julie (RW: New Orleans)?
A: I didn't care for her too much on "Inferno", but this last one I really go to know her, and I made her get drunk with me (laughs).
Q: I thought she didn't drink...
A: She doesn't. I made her. Everyone was saying, "What are you doing?" And I was like, "Shutup! I'm getting the Mormon drunk, I'm getting the Mormon drunk!" And then we hitchhiked. So she's actually really fun, like, she's not as straight laced as you would think, but I mean, she is. She's married now, but, talking to her, she's actually pretty cool.
Q: And she was the one talking sh** to you in "Inferno", but you ended up winning that challenge. How uncomfortable was that jogging suit you were in?
A: Oh my god. It was so itchy. And like, all I wanted to was take a shower. And I remember Leah and Coral did not like Julie at all. And it was funny because the "Real World" was cheering for me to win, and "Road Rules" was cheering for Julie to win because each of our teams hated us. And it was funny because after I won, Coral and Leah came up to me and said, "Yeah, yeah, you won. You're sending her home."
Q: Now, the Challenges, from what we've seen, have not shown you hooking up with anybody, as far as on camera...
A: Right..
Q: Sooooo, you don't need to name any names...
A: I think it'll be obvious once it ("Gauntlet 2") airs...
Q: How many in the whole RW/RR clique have you hooked up with?
A: (Laughs)....Oh my god....ummm....
Q: Well, you've all pretty much hooked with each other, right?
A: Yeah, ummmm, see I get away with murder, because I remember "Battle of the Sexes 2", Shane was like, "Katie, you never hook up with anybody." And I'm like, "Nope, never." And then I'm thinking, "Yeah, I've kissed him before, and I've kissed him before...." But, I've been involved with one. Or two....
Q: Sooooo, actual boyfriends?....
A: Seeing each other. One of them was a fling, the other one broke my heart. And I'm still dealing with it (laughs). He hears about it every single day. Every time he calls, every time he text messages, it's like I'm crazy.
Q: And other people know this? They know who this is?
A: Uh huh. Everybody.....you'll see.
Q: Does he know he's killing you and breaking your heart?
A: Yeah, yeah. He knows. It's really unusual because, ummmm, he definitely knows how I feel. And he knows how to piss me off. And the best way to describe it is we're two very intense, extreme people, with very bad tempers who are both controlling and like to have our own way. And so, yet we're attracted to each other. We're like oil and water. We're attracted to each other for the simple fact that the other one doesn't take the other one's sh**, so it's like this roller coaster. But we know that ultimately it's not smart....
Q: So we will know who it is after the "Gauntlet 2" airs?
A: Oh yeah. Probably after the first episode....(laughs)....So yeah, he dumped me right before filming started so I was still not over everything, I'm still not over everything, so when I get there I was like, "If you touch one chick in this house I'll rip your f***in balls off" (laughs)....He calls me the "Bride of Chucky". And we would fight nose-to-nose, and I would wait til the cameras weren't around because I didn't want it on camera me screaming again. So I'd wait til' Saturday when there aren't any cameras, and I'd be like, "M***** f***er, you listen to me right now, this is what you did all during this week that pissed me off", and I'd save up all my energy to just yell. And he'd be like, "You're crazy." And I'm like, "Yeah, I know." But he's still one of my best friends and we're going to Greece in September.
Q: Is it weird at all, in terms of the group itself since everyone's hooked up with everyone else, does it make it weird?
A: Yeah. And a lot of awkward moments. When I was eating with Trishelle and Adam a week ago, Trishelle and Adam used to date....
Q: Which Adam?
A: From my show. He's on the next show too....and they start arguing over that Toni girl from "Kill Reality" (Love Cruise & Paradise Hotel), they're fighting about that. I hate Tonya for hooking up with a guy I was involved with.....it's just weird. Everybody's crazy. That's why guys say never date reality chicks cuz' we're the nuttiest ones. Which I guess is probably true.
Q: In three words or less, describe Tonya.
A: Liar....insecure....controversial.
Q: Very good. Who would you consider a bigger enemy, Tonya or Veronica?
A: Tonya. Just because Tonya and I were friends and she betrayed me. Veronica and I, you know we were cool with each other, but we weren't friends, and she's just playing the game. The game is not all about who's strong and who's weak. People need to f***in understand that. Nobody seems to get it. If you can mind f**k people, you're gonna win. So, Veronica played the game. She screwed me over, I don't like her for it, but, if it's my personal life, it's a lot worse. I take everything a lot more serious in my regular life than I will in a game show. So, when Tonya screwed me over....I got her back.
Q: Was she in "Gauntlet 2"?
A: No, she was filming "Kill Reality".
Q: When was the last time you saw her?
A: Monday night.
Q: And how were things?
A: We ignored each other. I try to ignore her. I'm trying to really start to control my temper. But, I say that, and then I like, freak out sometimes. We get in trouble for hitting on the show. We can't hit. But the guy I was involved with, I threw glass at him on a Saturday and punched him in the jaw.
Q: Ok, word association time. I'm gonna give you a name, and you give me the first thing that pops into your head about that person.
A: Ok.
Q: Coral.
A: Funny.
Q: The Miz.
A: Entertaining.
Q: Veronica.
A: (ten second pause)....oh my god, I'm trying to think of the right word...I have it... Relentless.
Q: Tonya.
A: Liar.
Q: Johnny Fairplay.
A: An adorable bucklehead.
Q: Bucklehead?
A: I have to call him a name. I feel like I should make up a lie about him because he does that in his interviews everytime. So, I'm thinking I should come up with something bad about him. Something about how he has small balls. Put something in there about how he has small balls.
Q: Uh, ok.
A: (claps). Yay! I got that m***er f***er.
Q: Trishelle.
A: Good friend.
Q: Steven Hill.
A: Temperamental.
Q: Rob Cesternino.
A: Nice.
Q: Rob Cesternino might be my favorite person on reality television. I don't know why. I like that guy.
A: He's a great guy. He's funny. He was doing a radio interview, and he was making up all these lies about me as a joke, saying I was on "Dr. 90210" getting my labia reduced.
Q: He said that on a radio interview?
A: Yes! And I said, "Rob I hate you so much. That's my joke. And it was Shay. Shay got hers done." Which, of course, neither one of us did. He just likes to make jokes. Same interview he said, "Let's make fun of Johnny Fairplay." And I'm like, "Ok". Because I'm always up for making fun of him.
Q: Moving along to Playboy (Katie appeared in a DVD put out by Playboy called "Girls of Reality TV" in 2003). Was it something you always wanted to do, or when you were approached, it took you a while to decide whether or not you wanted to do it?
A: Ummm, well I think every girl has probably wondered what it'd be like to be in it because, you know, it's known for having attractive women and what not. So it's always gonna be flattering to be given the opportunity. When they asked me, I called my family to find out what they thought. First I called my brothers because I figured they would have to deal with it more than my mom and dad would. You know, they're friends having them and stuff, so, they were like, "Well, I definitely don't want to see it, but, if that's what you want to do, we'll support you." I called my mom and she thought it was a joke, and my dad was like, "Uhhhhh...whatever." And I'm like, "Oh, ok." And I remember I did it February 28th, 2003.
Q: How much creative control did you actually have over the pictures?
A: My bra itches....seriously, what the hell is that?
Q: Your bra what?
A: My bra just unsnapped and I'm like, "What is that feeling right there?"
Shay: "It's your nipple."
A: Well, I know that (laughs)....
(We now resume the interview after Katie fastens her bra back in place)
A: I had no control over the pictures. It was really hard. Actually, on the DVD, on the deleted section a lot of the girls were like, "Oh, I feel so beautiful" and I'm like, "Oh, I'm not the sexy type at all, I'm like the burper, the farter, and the gross one." It hurt a lot because you had to stay in these positions, like arching your back, for a long time.
Q: How long did the shoot take?
A: All day. From like 7 in the morning til nighttime. But it was fun. No regrets, honestly.
Q: That was my next question.
A: I don't have any regrets about anything. Not even the stupid stuff I do on T.V. People will come up to me sometimes and say, "You kinda looked crazy when you did that on T.V." And I'm like, "Look b**ch, you know what, fortunately I get to see myself in third person. You have no clue what a f***in asshole you are." People don't realize that they do stupid stuff too, it's just that mine is televised. But, if I cared what people thought, I would never be able to be on reality TV anyway.
Q: Do you watch any other reality shows?
A: Laguna Beach.
Q: Great show. If you could be on one other reality show, past or present, which one would you do? Excluding "Real World".
A: Ummmm....the "Bachelorette". I want to be the bachelorette. Just to have all those men fight over you? God. Cuz' I like joke around that I have "Desperate" written on my forehead. Everyday I'm like, "I'm gonna meet a guy tonight", and I never do cuz' I hang out with all guys. Or that's what I tell myself. I'll be like, "I'm sitting here with six guys. No one will ever approach me."
Q: Is there any reality show person you haven't met that you'd like to?
A: (Gasping for air)....Bobby Jon from "Survivor". Soooooo cute.
Q: You could meet him. He bartends somewhere in L.A.
A: Santa Monica. I googled him. I think he's adorable. And that's the only reason I wanted to go to the "Kill Reality" premiere, just to see him. And I don't know what I'd do if I saw him, because, I don't really watch enough of the show. But I'd probably say something like, "I really like the way your face looks. Hi."
Q: How often do you get stopped or noticed from being on the show?
A: Well, when we were walking here today, I heard someone yell, "Katie!". But I just kept walking and pretended like I didn't hear it.
Q: Does it get old after a while?
A: Yeah.
Q: Tell me one thing about yourself that would surprise most people.
A: That I'm shy.
Q: WHAT??!!! No you're not....
A: (laughing)....I really am. Listen. Like, I'm fine when I'm on tv, because I see this lens and people looking at me. But if I have to get in front of people on stage, I panic. Even when we do appearances, I don't like going on stage.
Q: What's the biggest misconception people have of you from watching the show?
A: That I'm mean, maybe. Just because I like, defend myself. I'm never a mean person. I'm very sarcastic, and I'll joke with people and do stupid things. Like I drew penises all over the wall in the house just to have fun, but, I think people expect me to be this brooding, angry girl that sits around the house pouting all the time. That's not me. Generally I like most people. I just don't get along really well with girls.
Q: Do you have any addictions?
A: Cigarettes. Porn. No, just kidding.
Q: Hey, if it's an addiction, I understand...
A: No, it's not. I'm not addicted to porn. I'm addicted to cigarettes and magazines. Yesterday, I bought like seven magazines. And diet sodas. And Absolut sodas. (laughing)...
Q: But you're not addicted to porn?
A: No. If I watch it, it just makes me laugh. The first porn I ever saw was "White Men Can't Hump..."
Q: I don't think that's true....
A: ...and then I saw this cowboy one where the guy walks up to the girl and is like, (in her best southern drawl), "Man, you sure got some purr-ty little nipples"...and we said it every day. Like over and over and over. But when you watch it, you're laughing. People that try an act hard to be all sexy is funny to me, because, I think when you're actually having sex, most people kinda look stupid. Sweatin' like a pig, makin' f***ed up faces..(laughs)...or maybe I just f**k funny (she then proceeds to make what, I assume are her f**k faces. Quite entertaing)....
Q: Describe yourself in high school.
A: Loud, obnoxious, ummm...
Q: I thought you were shy?
A: Well, I knew everybody. It's groups I don't know. If I'm a group with 20 of my friends, you can bet your ass I'm the one standing up in the front of the room telling all the jokes. Because I know them. In crowds, I just don't like people looking at me because it makes me feel self-conscious. You know who's the same way? Cameran from "RW: San Diego". She and I both get terrified by like speaking engagements. I'll do bar appearances, but I don't like to be in front of a university talking about something....
Q: I have a friend who has a giant crush on Cameran. Who is she dating now?
A: Jeremy Bloom. The pro skiier guy.
Q: Favorite alcoholic drink?
A: Grey Goose and soda.
Q: Non-alcoholic? Oh wait...diet coke.
A: Diet coke.
Q: Night or morning person?
A: Night.
Q: Last time you were drunk?
A: Monday night at the "Kill Reality" premiere.
Q: Last time you hooked up with anyone from the show?
A: Ummmmm.....about a month ago.
Q: Favorite vacation spot?
A: Ummm, I think it'll be Greece when I go, but as of now, I really like Cancun. I know it like the back of my hand I've spent so much time there.
Q: Craziest Vegas story?
A: Breaking my hand. I got in a fight with a guy, it got broken up, and I got so pissed, I punched the steel elevator door like a dipsh**.
Q: Last time you cried?
A: At our wrap party for "Gauntlet 2" because I have a fight with "the guy". I was mad at him because he was running from me.
Q: Worst date you've been on since going on the show?
A: I don't know. I never go on dates. Ummmm....I can't think of any. Anyone I've dated, I was friends with like, before anything ever happened. Ummmm....most guys can't handle me because I'm so.....
Q: Crazy?
A: Yeah. Well, it's not even that I'm crazy, but um, I just think because I always want to do what I want to do. I'll make plans with you then I'll ditch it at the last minute to make plans with someone else. Which isn't very friendly, but....you know. And then my temper usually turns people off. And then they get mad at me because I usually bring my friends. Like, Trishelle came with me and my boyfriend on Christmas vacation, to his family's house for Thanksgiving, she didn't want to be left by herself. And he's like, "Can we do anything without Trishelle?", so he'd invite just me over for a movie....and I'd bring Trishelle.
Q: To set the record straight, which RW/RR people are actually couples right now?
A: Randy and Kina, they're for sure together. Ummm....mostly people just hookup to hookup.
Q: No other people are couples?
A: I think just Randy and Kina. Trishelle and Adam were together a while. And.....oh Steven Hill and Jenna Lewis are dating. But you could probably figure that out if you saw "Kill Reality" on Monday. A lot of the guys from the show I just did, like Landon and MJ, they have girlfriends that aren't reality girls.
Q: The Miz isn't with anybody?
A: No. He's dated just about everyone though. Yeah, most of us are single because nobody wants to date us so we just hang out with each other all the time.
Q: You would've rather been on "Real World" than "Road Rules", right?
A: Initially, yeah, because I think it's a more entertaining show to watch, but, "Road Rules" is a more entertaining show to be on. When you're stuck in a house, and I know this from the Challenges just being there for a month, with not a lot of outside entertainment, this last challenge, a lot of time the camera people would come in, and I'd be just staring at the wall. They'd be like, "What are you doing?" I'd say, "I'm bored." You can only have so many conversations with the people you hang out with all the time. I already know everything about Robin. Or Mark, or David, or Derrick, or Blair....But everyone thinks I was on "Real World" when I wasn't.
Q: If you could change one thing about yourself, what would it be?
A: Physical?
Q: Sure, go with that first...
A: To be taller. Just to be two inches taller. That'd be cool.
Q: How tall are you, 5'3"?
A: 5'2". And then I'd probably change my temper. I need to control that.
Q: You really don't seem to care as much as a lot of reality TV people that say, "The editing made me look bad", or "the editing did this"....
A: That's because people are in denial. I know I'm an a**hole. I've known I was an a**hole since I was ten. But I'm also a good friend. I'm loyal, generous, nice, but I'm also aware that I talk too much. You know, I know everything that I f***in do that's bad, so if I wasn't aware I was doing it, I wouldn't be doing more shows. I'm just really unapologetic about who I am. As long as I don't hurt people, you know, I'm a little like f***ed up with my pranks telling everyone on the radio about Shay's crotch, because Rob said it about mine, so said it about hers. But that's just more of a twisted sense of humor. I don't think I'm mean.
Q: I mean, the thing is, they can't put something on the show that you didn't do....
A: Exactly. Own up to what you do.
Q: Do you cry in "Gauntlet 2"?
A: Yeah, but I'd try not to do it on camera. I'd say to the camera people, "Please let me have this conversation with him." So, I'm a little nervous about how I'm going to be edited this upcoming season. I don't like to look vulnerable. I'm just chill, and I like to have fun. I rarely get into my personal life on these shows. I'll talk about the game, I'll talk about the other people. But I don't talk about myself. This is the most worried I've been. I wasn't worried about how I'd look being hated, but, I don't want to see myself like how I'll look when I'm being hurt. That's the only thing I'm worried about.
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